Let's play a game. Guess the kerb weight of the finished car with all fluids, winner gets a packet of chocolate HobNobs. I'm going with 1265kg
Kirk said
May 6, 2021
Dark chocolate or milk chocolate?
Forsh said
May 7, 2021
Mate of mine (who obviously didn't have a project car) once did home made (Old English) White chocolate Hobnobs - now they were worth competing for!
Kirk said
May 7, 2021
Oh, in that case, 999kg.
Without the old geezers in obvs. And maybe after its had a chance to do the Mini thing and rust away some of its excess weight.
White chocolate mind.
Bozwell said
May 7, 2021
Iron oxide is heavier than iron due to absorbing oxygen molecules. it's only when bits fall off it'll get lighter.
anyway i'll go for 890kgs.
plus i'll wager it won't be long before the engine comes back out to get rid of the paddle clutch. Having driven quite a few cars with these clutches i'll say they are bl**dy horrible. If your extremely gentle with the revs you may just be able to pull away sensibly but try a little harder and they judder like mad or just snatch. Not ideal on a road car.
GrayRaceCat said
Jul 28, 2021
I assume it'll be "The closest without going over"?
I'm going with 1,340 kg wet, sans Geezers, and Dark Chocolate HobNobs, please.
Forsh said
Jul 28, 2021
GrayRaceCat wrote:
...and Dark Chocolate HobNobs, please.
You're sick!
bmwmaniac said
Jul 28, 2021
I am going to hazard a guess at 1100kg, or as close as makes no difference.
Forsh said
Jul 28, 2021
Realised I haven't said a weight and was going to go with 1kg for every cc of the original (assuming a "Special") engine = 1098 but @bmwmaniac has beat me to it
So I go for 1275kg* and assume the Alpine kit weighs a fair bit
*Edit: Hmmm that's a bit close to @Alfreds guess - Right!, split the difference 1186.5kg
-- Edited by Forsh on Wednesday 28th of July 2021 05:09:17 PM
GrayRaceCat said
Jul 29, 2021
Forsh wrote:
GrayRaceCat wrote:
...and Dark Chocolate HobNobs, please.
You're sick!
Milk Chocolate gives me Re-flux! (So, yes I guess you're right!)
Wonder of the Twitterati/Facebookians will join in?
-- Edited by Kirk on Thursday 29th of July 2021 06:02:16 PM
Bozwell said
Jul 29, 2021
The Mini in standard form is 620 Kgs.
the Celica is 1480 Kgs in standard form.
so anywhere between the two should be good.
Kirk said
Jul 29, 2021
I've updated my previous post to show the percentage of the 620Kgs implied by everyone's guesses. Made me think that maybe I've gone too high.
Maybe I should show the percentage lighter than a Celica?
Forsh said
Jul 30, 2021
Original sub 700kg!?! - make you think!
Just shows how skewed our perspective has become with the 1 3/4 tonne behemoth family hatchbacks we now run around in - as for EV SUV's !!!, I'm surprised motorway bridges and the like can cope! No wonder there are so may "sink holes*" appearing! (a sink hole is a collapsed sewer for people of a certain age! - sink hole my arse! - fakin journalistic click bait! )
The Gordon Murray philosophy of make every little thing a little bit lighter makes sooooo much sense!
Let's play a game. Guess the kerb weight of the finished car with all fluids, winner gets a packet of chocolate HobNobs. I'm going with 1265kg
Mate of mine (who obviously didn't have a project car) once did home made (Old English) White chocolate Hobnobs - now they were worth competing for!
Without the old geezers in obvs. And maybe after its had a chance to do the Mini thing and rust away some of its excess weight.
White chocolate mind.
anyway i'll go for 890kgs.
plus i'll wager it won't be long before the engine comes back out to get rid of the paddle clutch. Having driven quite a few cars with these clutches i'll say they are bl**dy horrible. If your extremely gentle with the revs you may just be able to pull away sensibly but try a little harder and they judder like mad or just snatch. Not ideal on a road car.
I'm going with 1,340 kg wet, sans Geezers, and Dark Chocolate HobNobs, please.
You're sick!
Realised I haven't said a weight and was going to go with 1kg for every cc of the original (assuming a "Special") engine = 1098 but @bmwmaniac has beat me to it
So I go for 1275kg* and assume the Alpine kit weighs a fair bit
*Edit: Hmmm that's a bit close to @Alfreds guess - Right!, split the difference 1186.5kg
-- Edited by Forsh on Wednesday 28th of July 2021 05:09:17 PM
Milk Chocolate gives me Re-flux! (So, yes I guess you're right!)
Summary:
Bozwell 890 (144%)
Kirk 999 (161%)
Bmwmaniac 1100 (177%)
Forsh 1186.5 (191%)
Alfred 1265 (204%)
GrayRaceCat 1340 (216%)
Wonder of the Twitterati/Facebookians will join in?
-- Edited by Kirk on Thursday 29th of July 2021 06:02:16 PM
the Celica is 1480 Kgs in standard form.
so anywhere between the two should be good.
Maybe I should show the percentage lighter than a Celica?
Original sub 700kg!?! - make you think!
)
Just shows how skewed our perspective has become with the 1 3/4 tonne behemoth family hatchbacks we now run around in - as for EV SUV's !!!, I'm surprised motorway bridges and the like can cope!
No wonder there are so may "sink holes*" appearing!
(a sink hole is a collapsed sewer for people of a certain age! - sink hole my arse! - fakin journalistic click bait!
The Gordon Murray philosophy of make every little thing a little bit lighter makes sooooo much sense!